Interview With Chad Shaw
Featured Bodybuilder
Interviewed by Tammy Renee'
WP: Chad is our Cover Model this month and he is also our, "Mr. World Physique, March 2009". We are honored to have him. Chad, can you start by telling our readers alittle about yourself?
CS: My name is Chad Shaw and I’m 34 years old. I’m a native of Madison Wisconsin where I was born and raised and currently reside. I’m best known as “The Natural One” on Bodybuilding.com where my personal story and journey in the sport of bodybuilding has been made famous. I am the youngest of 3 siblings. I have 2 older brothers, Rob and Todd who are 7 and 10 years older than me and to whom I credit most for making me tough and introducing me to weight lifting at a young age. I am best known as an inspirational figure in the world of bodybuilding because of the seemingly impossible odds that I’ve overcome in my life in older to get where I’m at now.
WP: What was it that made you know without a doubt that you wanted to go into bodybuilding?
CS: Living a child hood of constant sickness and health problems made me desperately want to become the opposite of that. I was inspired by TV and movie heroes like the Incredible Hulk and Conan the Barbarian. To me, they were the opposite of what I was and what I wanted to be. I was fascinated by their huge powerful muscles and amazing feats of strength they showed which were fake, but when I was a kid, I didn’t know that. All I knew is that that’s how I wanted to be some day.
WP: We will get to your child hood sickness in a later question, if you don't mind. I would like to ask a few more questions about bodybuilding.
CS: Sure!
WP: How long have you been lifting?
CS: I have been bodybuilding for 23 years now.
WP: I should have know you have been in it for a while because a person doesn't build a physique like yours over night. What are your best lifts? Do not go easy on me, either or be modest...I want to know!
CS: Well, I would have to say that my back and bicep lifts are my most impressive. I’d like to make note that my body weight fluctuates between 187-192 lbs. I can dead lift close to 3X my bodyweight. Right around 560 lbs. On T-bar rows and reverse grip barbell rows, I will go up to 405 for reps. Preacher curls, I will go as heavy as 175 lbs for reps and straight bar curls (cheating) I will go as high as 200 lbs for a few reps. My legs are a bit more tricky to train because of not having an ACL or cartilage in my right knee so I can’t do free style squats, but I will go as heavy as 1500 lbs. for reps on a leg press. My bench press was close to 500 lbs. when I was in my young 20’s, but had a much more bulky physique about 30 lbs. heavier with much better joints back then. Right now, I can bench close to 400 lbs. I do have a reputation in the gym for being insane because of some of my lifting attempts, which haven’t always ended well for me. Ha-ha! There have been several times I’ve gone from the gym right to the doctor. I guess you’ll never know what your limits are if you don’t test them. I want to make it clear that these aren’t weights, I just decided to roll out of bed one day and try it’s taken decades of slow and gradual adaptation of not just the muscles, but also the tendons, ligaments and joints in order to get to this point.
WP: Wow! That's really impressive! That's crazy insain! you have any advice to people that wish to build more mass and more cut? That is, without a trip to the emergency room. Ha-ha!
CS: One thing I would advice people to do is to not get carried away with bulking up when they are trying to add more muscle. It’s better to make small and gradual calorie adjustments to gain size and lose more body fat. You see a lot of bodybuilder’s who are lean and want to gain muscle mass so, they will literally double or even triple their calorie intake by eating anything that’s not nailed down to the floor and end up becoming obese in the process. Then, when they decide they want to cut, they will crash diet and cut calories by about 2/3 and follow a painfully miserable low calorie diet while boosting their activity level doing tons of cardio vascular training in a desperate race to try to lose all the fat they gained while bulking up. By the time they lose all the fat they gained, they end up with a gain of very little muscle, if any at all, as a result of the long miserable process they just put them selves through. I can say from experience that this just doesn’t work. Looking back at the beginning of the process, they could of done much better and suffered much less if they would of increased their calories by just 300-500 per day and they would probably gain more muscle in the end because there would be no need for crash dieting later on which is very catabolic. Drastically boosting your caloric intake will cause a lot of additional fat accumulation and likewise, drastically cutting your calories way back will lead to muscle loss and ultimately slow down your metabolism.
WP: I am so glad you brought that up. You are 100% correct. To me, more bodybuilder's can obtain results in a much safer way then they do. Your advice is great! Talking about diet, what do you eat on a normal day? Maybe this can shed some insight into what we are talking about.
CS: In a perfect world, I would have time to prepare well thought out meals and take my time eating them but, unfortunately with my work schedule and the short break times I’m allowed, with the exception of breakfast and dinner I have maybe 2-3 minutes to choke something down when I need to eat, so my options are limited to more simple choices. Usually for breakfast I will have 2 whole eggs scrambled with about 4 egg whites and also 2 slices of low carb French toast that I make with Low carb bread, egg whites, cinnamon, vanilla extract and ground flaxseed, then topped off with some sugar free syrup. Now that’s tasty! Mid morning, I will have a VPX Zero Impact protein bar. I don’t get much time for lunch, so I will take a low carb tortilla wrap and spread it with my favorite all natural, fire roasted salsa, then put in a chicken breast and some fresh veggies, roll it all up and chow. Tastes awesome! The next time I eat will be in the late afternoon, early evening when I get home from work and then I will have a protein shake and 2 slices of low carb toast with power butter on it. After my evening workout I’ll have dinner, which will normally consist of grilled steak, chicken or wild caught salmon. Sometimes I will blacken tuna steak or mahi mahi. Along with it, I will have about 1 pound of steamed vegetables, usually broccoli or green beans. I like to drink 1-2 glasses of dry red wine while I’m cooking dinner to help me relax. I always seem too hungry right before bed, so for a bedtime snack, I will have a cup of low fat cottage cheese mixed with a couple teaspoons of ground flaxseed.
WP: Now I'm hungry! That toast and peanut butter sounds great right now. That peanut butter spreads so well on warm toast. Okay, let me get back into the conversation at hand. Sorry, but I was lost for a second. Ha-ha! Do you allow yourself a cheat day?
CS: Cheat day? You bet! I will let myself have one cheat day per week. I laugh to myself when I hear other bodybuilder's talk about their cheat days. They will tell me about how they really went off the deep end with their cheat meal and ate an extra yam with their chicken breast for dinner! Ha-ha! I’m thinking to myself, "That’s what you call cheating? An extra yam?" How does this sound for a cheat meal? A large pizza topped with the works, washed down with a good bottle of red wine and then a 1/2 gallon container of mint cookie ice cream for desert! Now, that’s what I’m talking about! My gosh! I really feel like a pig when I hear what other people have for cheat meals.
WP: You have me laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes! I'm the "Extra yam" type! Ha-ha! Then, I get on the treadmill and run those "extra yam" calories off because my mind plays tricks on me. I'd be in bed for a week with deep depression if I ate all you do on a cheat day! How funny! On with the interview. What supplements do you take?
CS: I really like USP Labs supplements. Jacob Geissler, the CEO of USP labs, has kindly helped me put together a very effective supplement regimen. It consists of 'Anabolic Pump', 'Prime', 'Powerful', 'Super Cissus Rx' for joint pain and 'Jacked' for pre-workout energy and intensity. I believe these are most powerful, non-hormonal supplements on the market today. I also take a post-workout formula by MRM called 'Reload'. It contains branched chain amino acids, glutamine, and beta alanine. I always take a high potency multi-vitamin with breakfast and also I take CLA and Flaxseed oil capsules 3 times per day with my meals. I like the Gaspari Myofusion for Protein Powder and I love the VPX Zero Impact protein bars.
WP: I bet as soon as our reader's read what you take, they're going to be making a bee line to the store. "If a supplement can make me look like that...". Now, earlier you mentioned that when you were young, you were sick. Can you go into deeper detail about that?
CS: Sure! My story is a sad one but with a happy ending. I was born a very sickly baby with lots of health problems, as I was supposed to be a miscarriage. I had heart problems and severe asthma. I spent most of my time in the hospital and in the doctor’s office all the way up to my mid-teens. The asthma was so severe it was rare that I could ever participate in gym class or any other type of physical activity.
I was constantly pumped up with corticosteroids, antibiotics, and anti other asthma medications to control the disease. Frequent asthma attacks would occur that would cause my lungs to explode with infection and result in a very lengthy stay in the hospital. Several times I was given the prognosis that I wasn’t going to live through many of these attacks but, time and time again, I managed to pull through.
I remember my parent’s having priests from the church come up to the hospital to pray over me. It’s a good thing, too, because I’m still here! I began bodybuilding at age 11 despite all the health problems. Every attempt to try to workout would almost always lead to an asthma attack. Each time I did workout it seemed like I could go just a little bit longer than the last time, before I would have another attack.
By my mid-teens, the asthma had improved tremendously, as a result of bodybuilding and exercise. Things seemed to be under control but the asthma was just the beginning of more problems to come. I began having back problems and went to the doctor and discovered that my right leg was 4 inches shorter than my left causing my hips to be uneven. I had to wear a 4 inch heal lift on my right shoe and then at age 14, I had intense surgery that was to destroy the growth plate in my left knee so, my right leg could catch up in length. It did work. Currently, I only have a 1- inch difference between the two legs. Soon after, I suffered a severe back injury, which ripped four disks in my spine and pushed 2 other one’s out. It was also determined then, that I had spinal scoliosis. Top orthopedic doctors told me to forget about ever lifting weights again, that my back would never be strong or normal. They wanted to operate on me and create a spinal fusion by putting steel rods in my spine. I refused this surgery. They said it was impossible to heal from this injury. They were wrong!
After 1 year of intense chiropractic treatment, I began bodybuilding once again. Once again, the glory was short lived as I suffered a nasty knee dislocation during a light jog. Again, I went to the doctor only to find out through several tests that my right knee was absent an anterior, cruciate ligament, which I was born without, and also that my knee was so deformed and laterally misplaced so it was impossible for me to have the ACL reconstruction that most people have when they tear that ligament. The only thing they could do for me is to remove my entire medial meniscus, which was ripped up too bad to repair. Since then I’ve suffered multiple knee dislocations as a result of not having that ACL. Severe arthritis has also developed in that knee as well. Most recently, back in 2007, I had three tumors that grew so large they forced my kneecap out of its track. I had them removed along with some more torn cartilage and made a good recovery over 2008. Besides those injuries I’ve also suffered severe ulnar nerve damage from years of competitive arm wrestling, a torn rotator cuff, and a ruptured proximal bicep tendon. Despite everything that’s happened I’ve competed in 7 bodybuilding shows over the years, with my first being at age 16 in which I ended up winning my class. Even though it sounds like I had a terrible life, I don’t regret anything that’s happened to me because it’s made me who I am today. I learned a lot about faith, inner strength, humbleness, and appreciation of life. Each day that I can roll out of bed and stand up is a blessed day and I look forward to what my future holds.
WP: Oh my! I complain when my head hurts! You are such an inspiration! What a story! That is total determination! Do you have anyone you can thank for helping you get where you are?
CS: First, I should thank God for answering my prayers. Had that not happened, I wouldn’t be here right now. The other one who I‘m most thankful for is my father. He wasn’t a bodybuilder nor did he have any interest in bodybuilding, but what he did do for me is taught me about being a good person. In my opinion, he is the true definition of what a man should be. He taught me about self-sacrifice, respect and the importance of being humble. He taught me that you should never look down on anyone because, were not all blessed with the same opportunities in life. He showed me that being successful has nothing to do with how much money you make, and everything to do with your integrity. At the end of the day, that’s all you have. One other thing he taught me, which I didn’t always like, was discipline. He showed me there were consequences for making bad decisions (usually a leather belt! Ha-ha!) As far as bodybuilding goes, I was a self-taught bodybuilder for the most part. I learned from my own experience and a lot reading. However, the values passed on by my father have indirectly made me a more effective bodybuilder.
WP: Oh, believe me! I know about the leather belt! Not pretty! Ha-ha. That's amazing you said that about your father teaching you how to be humble. That was one of the first things I noticed about you when I first met you. Oh, that is outside your awesome body, pretty smile, and great personality. I'm a female...so sue me! Ha-ha! But, your father did so very well raising you, I do have to say that. Where do you want to be in 5 years?
CS: That’s a tough question. I have a lot of different interests and things I would like to do but not a lot of free time. Working 9 hour days at least 5 days per week and trying to take care of 4 animals, keep up a home, workout, and make time for family and friends leaves me little free time so I can’t put too many irons in the fire at once. In 5 years I hope to maybe have a more important role in the bodybuilding community, maybe writing some articles for a magazine, working for a reputable supplement company, or even doing some modeling. I always have people telling me I should write a book, so that may also be a possibility at some point.
WP: I think you should write a book. That would be very interesting. You have a physique that so many guys are trying to obtain. Your mass and cut is perfect! How do you keep the physique you have? What is the hardest thing for you to face when it comes to keeping your physique?
CS: Thank you. I really have to make an effort to keep active in my spare time in order to maintain my body. My job involves sitting on my butt for 9 hours a day and it tends to make me lethargic. No matter how tired I am, I have to do something active every single day. Days that I may not make it to the gym I need to be sure take my dog for a good hour long walk or do some floor exercises at home. It’s important to be consistent. Especially when you work a job like I do in which your lucky if burn off 200 calories during the day. You don’t need to kill yourself every day but you need to make time for some activity each day. The toughest thing for me by far though has to be keeping my diet strict. I really love my food and some days I get really bent just thinking about what I want to eat but cannot have! I need my cheat day each week to keep me going or else I couldn’t do it. The other tough thing for me is coping with adversity. The injuries and health issues I’ve had have forced me to constantly make modifications to my training routine in order to keep going and making progress. For example, due to my knee condition I’m unable to do free style squats or full range leg extensions so instead I do leg presses and use a power squat machine and the gym and do partial leg extensions as well as static contractions.
WP: I can understand that. I am the same way. Sitting that long can steal your energy. A person has to be sure they make the time to care for themselves. Tell me about your future projects. Have any in sight?
CS: I don’t have any specific projects right now but I keep myself open to venture new opportunities. Certain opportunities will present themselves and I think things out very carefully to determine if it’s within my best interest to take a given opportunity or not. My spare time is limited so I need to use my time wisely.
WP: What gets you up in the morning?
CS: I feel that there’s a reason why God has allowed me to overcome what I have and survived several death sentences. I don’t think that God worked miracles in my life only to have me go and waste it. I get out of bed in the morning because each and every day is a stepping-stone for me to get to where I’m supposed to be and to fulfill my purpose in life.
WP: With God, you can overcome anything in life. You're the prime example. How do you approach a challenge?
CS: I guess it depends on the type of challenge. Less complex challenges like lifting a heavy weight or doing a pose down in a bodybuilding competition for instance, I go straight after like a pit bull off its leash. Other more complex challenges like checking into a new career or something life changing like that I will take a step back and look at the situation from all different angles and think things out very carefully until I figure out the best game plan to meet that challenge.
WP: How do you create balance in your life?
CS: Creating balance is no easy task. I’m working a full time job for a company that doesn’t bend or budge on any rules and I get 3 weeks of free time per year. There is no flexibility during my work day that allows me to do anything other than be there at work for at least 9 hours per day. I’m thankful for my job because it provides me with what I need to get by and keep me in my home especially when job opportunities are so rare around here but I can’t say it’s my dream job by any means. I do what I have to do in order to try to maintain balance in my life and sometimes that means only getting 3-4 hours of sleep some days. It’s very important for me to spend time with my family, my dogs, and my friends. Weekends are when I’m most able to do that. Of course working out daily is a must for me. Then there’s the basic things like cooking, cleaning, doing yard work, shoveling snow that all take up time. I also get hundreds of messages each week from people seeking advice about how to get more out of their workout routines and diets. Helping out other people has always been important to me so I get back to as many people as I can and help them out. Unfortunately I can’t get back to everyone because there just isn’t enough time in the day for the volume of people that seek my advice. I’d like to see days be increased from 24 hours to 34 hours. That would help me out a lot, or I could clone myself a few times like in that movie, Multiplicity! Ha-ha!
WP: My friend and I are suppose to go see that movie soon. I can't wait! I don't watch movies hardly but, this one is going to be great! What one piece of advice you can share with me on how to gain the most muscle the fastest?
CS: This is where people get into trouble. They try to gain muscle fast when in fact gaining muscle naturally is a very slow process. People become impatient and take on a more is better approach to their training. I can’t blame them entirely though. Many muscle magazines out there list the workouts that the IFBB pro’s follow so therefore you should too! Doing so is a one- way ticket to failure! You have to remember that muscle magazines are commercialized publications and their #1 job is to sell products, not to provide you with the absolute best scientific approach to building muscle naturally. Just flip through a magazine and you’ll notice over half of it is supplement ads being endorsed by professional bodybuilders. These ads suggest that if you use a certain product then you can reach the level of this pro bodybuilder. This is misleading to say the least. I’m a big believer of using supplements but no matter what supplements you take you will never make any meaningful progress following the workout routine of an IFBB pro bodybuilder unless you are taking steroids! These high volume workout routines will not work for a natural bodybuilder! Steroids alter the chemistry of the body on many different levels, two of them being a great increase in nitrogen retention and protein synthesis. With that being said, the key to gaining muscle size naturally is with short bouts of high intensity weight training followed by adequate recovery periods that will allow overcompensation or muscle building to take place. Over training is the #1 reason why natural bodybuilders fail! No workout should ever last longer than 45 minutes and I believe no muscle group should ever be trained more than once per week with the exception of abs. I don’t believe in ever doing more than 1 set to failure on any given exercise, as doing so can be counterproductive. If someone isn’t seeing any progress from a workout routine, then it’s because of 1- of - 2 reasons. Either 1. They aren’t training intensely enough to threaten the physiology of the body giving the body a reason to need more muscle. Or 2. They aren’t allowing enough recovery time between workouts to allow overcompensation to occur. I advise people to always keep a training journal. Write down every exercise they perform and also the weight and repetitions they do. This way you can gauge your progress. Anytime your repeat any given workout and your stronger than you were the last time you did that workout, then your moving in the right direction because you don’t lift more weight or get more reps with less muscle. If you repeat a workout and your unable to do more than you did last time, then chances are you are over training and haven’t given enough recovery time to that particular muscle group.
WP: I love your answer! Okay, to the question everyone is waiting for me to ask. Are you married, have kids, or are you single?
CS: Yes, I am married and we don’t have kids, however, we have 2 dogs and 2 cats that are like kids! The youngest is a 4 year- old, Olde English Bull Dogge named Rudy. I got him as a tax refund gift for myself 4 years ago. He’s quite a handful! 80 lbs. of solid muscle with 10,000 lbs of attitude! Ha-ha! I have to keep lifting the way I do just to be able to control him, because walking him is try hold back a Hummer attacked to leash driving full force!
WP: You have me laughing again. I can see you with a dog like that. I bet everyone moves out of the way when you two walk down the road together. I use to have a huge rock I called, "Judge". He was the judge, the jury, and had the final say in everything! Ha-ha! Who had the most impact on you growing up?
CS: There again, I would have to say my father was the greatest influence on me. I was also looked up to my 2 older brothers, Todd and Rob. When I was a kid I wanted to be like them. They were big into weight lifting back when I was a kid they looked larger then life to me. They were always the biggest guys in the gym lifting the biggest weights. I remember people would just stop and stare at them in aw because they couldn’t believe how strong they were. They made me tough growing up, dishing out regular beatings to me, LOL! They were a lot older than me so I didn’t stand much of a chance! I’m pretty sure I could take them now though, Ha-ha
WP: When you try to take them, we want it on video! I'd post it on the site! That would be fun to watch. ha-ha! What is your work out regimen?
CS: Before I tell my workout routine, I want everyone to understand that over the years as I’ve gotten progressively stronger I’ve had to add additional recovery time between my workouts little by little in order to be able to keep making progress and avoid over training. I haven’t always needed this much recovery time between workouts. Week 1, I will train chest and back on Wednesday, then quadriceps and calves on Saturday. Week 2, I will train biceps and triceps on Wednesday and then hamstrings and calves on Saturday. Week 3, I will train shoulders on Wednesday and then quadriceps and calves again on Saturday. After that I will begin that 3- week rotation all over again but only I will train hamstrings on the Saturday workout. So I train quadriceps and hamstrings every other week and back, chest, arms, and shoulders get trained just once every 3 weeks. On alternate days I will do HIIT style cardio alternating high and low intensity intervals, 1 minute each for about 20 minutes. After that, I will do some core and abdominal training. My workouts are brief but, very intense!
WP: Anything you would like to see change in the bodybuilding world?
CS: Yes, I would like to see illegal drugs completely eliminated from the sport of bodybuilding. Maybe there is no solid proof that steroids can kill you but you can’t ignore the mountain of circumstantial evidence that exists and the number of bodybuilders and power and strength athlete’s that have fallen victim to serious health problems and have died, that just happen to be using steroids and other dangerous drugs. I would also like to see more thorough drug testing in the natural competitions. I know several bodybuilders who were using steroids and boasted about being able to beat the polygraph test before a so- called drug free competition. Then on the other hand, I was almost disqualified in an INBF show because I had taken ½ of a Unisom tablet 2 days before the contest! I was clean and followed all the rules and killed myself for 9 months preparing for this show, spend hundreds of dollars to be in the show and then was almost disqualified for such a stupid reason. I have issues with that! How about lowering some of the asinine organization fee’s, entry fees, and sanctioning fees, and use that money to conduct more accurate forms of drug testing. Polygraph testing is very outdated and inaccurate. I would also like to see supplement companies be more honest with the public and use non- steroid using bodybuilders to promote their products. Having some heavily juiced bodybuilder stand there in some ad for a creatine product stating that using this product his how he put on huge slabs of muscle is very misleading, and fraudulent advertising to say the least.
WP: With the scare of all the Professionals getting caught with illegal drugs, you would think that would set an example for people. It might have scared a few but, not as many as I would have thought. What is the funniest story that has happened to you while working out?
CS: One day, I went to the gym to do some cardio training. I got on the step mill and began my workout. I looked up a ways ahead of me and saw this tall lanky guy running on the treadmill. He was running pretty fast, I’d say about 6 mph. His feet got away from him and he tripped up and was jousted off the treadmill onto the floor. He then stood up, brushed himself off, and decided to try hopping back on the treadmill while it was still running at about 6 mph! Ounce again, he was catapulted off the treadmill onto the floor! He laid there for a few seconds, got back up, longingly looked at the still moving treadmill, and tried to jump on it, yet a third time, while it was still running! Again, he was launched into the air and made a crash landing on the floor! Ha-ha! I was laughing so hard I almost fell off the step mill! I’ve seen people do some dumb things in the gym before but, that one took the cake! Ha-ha!
WP: If I saw that, you would be dialing 911 because I would be laughing so hard I couldn't breathe! You made a very good visual of this in my mind with the way you described it. Ha-ha! Oh my, that's probably the funniest answer I've heard thus far since I've been asking this question! Okay, since we went to the funny side, let's go to the serious side. What is the proudest moment of your life?
CS: I would have to say my proudest moment was when I first received the Jan 2009 issue of Jeff Everson’s Planet Muscle, in which I was featured. It was a very surreal experience for me to see myself in a great publication like Planet Muscle! I never thought I ever looked good enough to be in a magazine so, it made me feel very proud that Planet Muscle thought I did!
WP: How did I not know that about you? That is outstanding! I bet that was a proud moment! What are your interests outside of bodybuilding?
CS: I’m not like a Martha Stewart or anything, but I really like cooking when I have time to do it.
WP: Martha Stewart?! Ha-ha! No, you sure don't look nothing like her!
CS: Ha-ha. I like to be creative and try making new experiments. Sometimes they turn out great, other times not! I like being outdoors and doing stuff like fishing, swimming, or taking my dog for long walks. I’ve always been interested in paranormal type stuff and I’ve always been a fan of freaky movies about ghosts and hauntings. I’ve experienced some kind of weird things in that respect so that type of stuff is fascinating to me. I’ve always liked funny things too. Funny movies, TV shows and love playing jokes on people and having fun. Some day when I actually have time and a little extra money I would like to travel. There are a lot of different places I would like to visit
WP: Geez, why is it when I talk to you, I stay hungry? Could it be that we talk about food a lot? Ha-ha! I can see now that if I hung out with you, I'd be back up to 360 pounds again! Ha-ha! If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be?
CS: I have a very difficult time saying no to someone that is asking help from me. I always have good intentions but my reality is that I’m unable to help out every single person that asks for it. I wish that I could except the fact that I can’t please everyone all the time and that’s just the way it is, but it weighs on my conscience when I don’t help someone out that has asked me.
WP: Okay, Chad. We both still have to workout today, so the interview is about up. I have to workout now that we've talked about food so much. I think I've gained 5 pounds already! Ha-ha. Is there anything else you would like to add? Now is the time!
CS: Yes, I would just like to tell people that your reality will be what ever you believe it is. There’s a lot of negativity in the world so anytime there’s something you’re trying to accomplish or change for the better in your life, you will always have negative forces working against you. I’m telling you from experience that you can overcome any obstacle in your life if you truly believe you can. In my case I had top orthopedic doctors tell me I would never be able to lift weights again. They said it was impossible. Don’t get me wrong, I’m thankful for doctors, medicine, and science but the only thing that doctors know for sure is what charts tell them. When you open your mind to a broader span of thinking and have faith in a higher power, then the laws of nature no longer limit you. Never let anyone else choose your reality for you!
I want express my deepest thanks for giving me the opportunity to do this interview with World Physique! I will look forward to seeing your great company continue to grow!
WP: We are proud to have you! You have really made a huge impact on all of us! You have been a pleasure to interview! Thank you for your time and good luck in your future bodybuilding endeavors!

















